Well, I'd never have thought this ...

[Prufrock]

So there's been an injunction lifted? Must be a relief for the press, the last few months must have been tough as they knew, but couldn't tell who it was yet.

[bobo the clown]

After years of people saying, "ooooh you can't say that. You can't say that guy *looks* like a paedophile. You can't tell who is a paedo just by what they look like." It turns out, actually, that you definitely can.

So .... Elvis Costello, discuss ; ....




just the image = character proposal.
I'm NOT suggesting he is, not in any way ... but just ask yourself, would you let a man looking like THAT babysit your children ??

[Beefheart]

I nostalgically decided to watch an episode of rosie & jim on youtube earlier this week. The guy on that definitely looks like he might be, but I hope not.

[Annoyed Grunt]

http://news.sky.com/story/1083538/max-c ... x-assaults" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Max Clifford charged with 11 sex assaults.....

[TANGODANCER]

Baffling thing about all this, for me, is why it's all taken so long to come to light. Most of the ones being accused are in their seventies, eighties in a couple of cases, yet so many accusations are emerging out of the woodwork all at once? I'm not even going to comment on the truth or no, of any of it; or the extent of said sexual abuse, who actually knows what that is? Just all beginining to seem that people famous, or having a few bob, are the only ones in the frame. All a bit ....? .

[Annoyed Grunt]

Ken Barlow at it:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-22366981" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[bobo the clown]

Ken Barlow at it:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-22366981" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Really .... he was giving Emma Jesson one until recently .... 38 years younger than him .... & still 44 !!

Well, I would ...



bye-bye !!

[bobo the clown]

46 years ago !!?? How the hell do you either prove ... or defend ... that ??

I am not saying bad people shouldn't be dealt with, even years later, but wtf ?????

[Lost Leopard Spot]

46 years ago !!?? How the hell do you either prove ... or defend ... that ??

I am not saying bad people shouldn't be dealt with, even years later, but wtf ?????

Yeh it is getting ridiculous.
I wake up with a sweat on thinking will one of my classmates dob me in for flicking their earholes and calling them a speccy-four-eyes forty nine years ago. I can't remember anything at all about the events of that day, or even on any day at all that year.

[boltonboris]

46 years ago !!?? How the hell do you either prove ... or defend ... that ??

I am not saying bad people shouldn't be dealt with, even years later, but wtf ?????

Yeh it is getting ridiculous.
I wake up with a sweat on thinking will one of my classmates dob me in for flicking their earholes and calling them a speccy-four-eyes forty nine years ago. I can't remember anything at all about the events of that day, or even on any day at all that year.

I'm sure you'd remember the day you'd raped somebody (I'm not at all saying you have, by the way).

Regardless of time scales, crimers should be brought to justics.

[bobo the clown]

46 years ago !!?? How the hell do you either prove ... or defend ... that ??

I am not saying bad people shouldn't be dealt with, even years later, but wtf ?????

Yeh it is getting ridiculous.

I wake up with a sweat on thinking will one of my classmates dob me in for flicking their earholes and calling them a speccy-four-eyes forty nine years ago. I can't remember anything at all about the events of that day, or even on any day at all that year.

I'm sure you'd remember the day you'd raped somebody (I'm not at all saying you have, by the way).

Regardless of time scales, crimers should be brought to justice.

Agreed .... but if you get that knock on your door & plod says "we have reason to believe ...." how do you show you didn't. Especially in pre-digital times without electronic diaries and constant monitoring.

Are they picking up ordinary Joe's too ... or just people famous ?

[Bruce Rioja]

I blame Len Fairclough!

[mrkint]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-22 ... WEET741690" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[bobo the clown]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-22 ... WEET741690" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Amazed ..... I wonder what made him cough ?

I doubt he will be around much longer.

[thebish]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-22 ... WEET741690" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I always felt that i was swimming against the flow in not liking him... eughh!! presumably they'll lock him up for the rest of his days??

[BWFC_Insane]

Baffling thing about all this, for me, is why it's all taken so long to come to light. Most of the ones being accused are in their seventies, eighties in a couple of cases, yet so many accusations are emerging out of the woodwork all at once? I'm not even going to comment on the truth or no, of any of it; or the extent of said sexual abuse, who actually knows what that is? Just all beginining to seem that people famous, or having a few bob, are the only ones in the frame. All a bit ....? .

Probably for 2 reasons.

1) Because they are now easily identifiable still by their "victims".

2) Because the culture 40 years ago was probably such that those in powerful or priviliged positions probably felt they could get away with that sort of thing, and it's increasingly apparent they were right. The authorities turned a blind eye.

Anyhow Stuart Hall has admitted what he did by pleading guilty. Personally I think it's a sad indictment of our culture at that time.

Thank god for progress.

[Bijou Bob]

I'm staggered by that and also rather sad. The sentence will be interesting given his age and the length of time since the offences took place.

[thebish]

I'm staggered by that and also rather sad. The sentence will be interesting given his age and the length of time since the offences took place.

he's only admitted it because he had to - all of the victims (even though they did not know each other) gave pretty much identical and consistent stories of what he did and how he did it...

not that long ago he was doing the "poor me - these scurrilous allegations have nearly driven me to suicide" stuff.

i don't think his age should be taken into account - just lock him up. - and erase every BBC tape of him ever giving one of his wanky self-serving match reports.

[BWFC_Insane]

I'm staggered by that and also rather sad. The sentence will be interesting given his age and the length of time since the offences took place.

he's only admitted it because he had to - all of the victims (even though they did not know each other) gave pretty much identical and consistent stories of what he did and how he did it...

not that long ago he was doing the "poor me - these scurrilous allegations have nearly driven me to suicide" stuff.

i don't think his age should be taken into account - just lock him up. - and erase every BBC tape of him ever giving one of his wanky self-serving match reports.

Well said Bish. Well said. I don't think you were swimming against any significant tide previously either....

[Lord Kangana]

Yeah, there's a telling interview with Ken Barlow on NZ telly a few weeks ago, where he says that the accused and victims should be given anonymity. The strange thing is, he's probably right, but you have to wonder about his motivation in hindsight, don't you?