Dougie Freedman - Ten Months On

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Re: Dougie Freedman - Ten Months On

Post by PC1978 » Wed Aug 14, 2013 12:11 pm

Lost Leopard Spot wrote:
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Lost Leopard Spot wrote:
Bruce Rioja wrote: There appears to be a lot being written here yet the conversation isn't moving along one iota.
Suitably told off, I shall retire from propounding the anti view. Dougie's not employing him any way.
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So Dougie, ten months on. It's not enough, we need more time to come to a consensus view.
The first batch of this season's matches were always going to be a bit tough due to the nature of the opponents crammed into the opening month. But if we don't get a win soon, and we plummet bottomwards, I can easily see a more negative outlook developing too soon.
I said at the start of the season I would take a draw in each of our first 5 matches. Still sticking with that now! :wink:

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Re: Dougie Freedman - Ten Months On

Post by Armchair Wanderer » Wed Aug 14, 2013 3:25 pm

Gonna have to read about chimps now and see what all the fuss is about.
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Re: Dougie Freedman - Ten Months On

Post by LeverEnd » Wed Aug 14, 2013 5:23 pm

Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:Thought I recognised that story, LE... :wink:

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That's the one. fair play to him. And her for laughing along. Hoddle was a bit bonkers though, shame as he had a lot to offer. Parlour will presumably be punished by being reincarnated as a woodlouse with a limp.
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Re: Dougie Freedman - Ten Months On

Post by Cocopopper » Wed Aug 14, 2013 5:29 pm

The 'chimp' thing is a gimmick, a way of trying to make something inherently complicated a bit more accessible. Naturally, it'll do that for some whilst switching others off.

Promise I'll stop bleating about it now...
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Re: Dougie Freedman - Ten Months On

Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Wed Aug 14, 2013 5:34 pm

Cocopopper wrote:The 'chimp' thing is a gimmick, a way of trying to make something inherently complicated a bit more accessible. Naturally, it'll do that for some whilst switching others off.

Promise I'll stop bleating about it now...
It's not only chimps though is it? His metaphorical bag overfloweth with planets and moons. I was half expecting some plot outline from planet of the apes in the appendices :hang:
I'll also quit bleating on as well. :wink:
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Re: Dougie Freedman - Ten Months On

Post by bobo the clown » Wed Aug 14, 2013 7:37 pm

Cocopopper wrote:The 'chimp' thing is a gimmick, a way of trying to make something inherently complicated a bit more accessible. Naturally, it'll do that for some whilst switching others off.

Promise I'll stop bleating about it now...
So .... you have a thing about chimps but are concerned how this will make you appear to others.

Tell me, how do you feel about that ??


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Re: Dougie Freedman - Ten Months On

Post by Hoboh » Thu Aug 15, 2013 2:33 pm

All this was to do with 'legless players in a game' feck all to do with mind games!!
You can train correctly to remove the 'legless effect' the bit we have drifted onto is very questionable, it MAY work for some and NOT for others. Would it win the league? Doubt it, would it help? Maybe, but unproven.

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Re: Dougie Freedman - Ten Months On

Post by jimbo » Thu Aug 15, 2013 3:17 pm

So in summary freedman is doing ok, and Darren pratley's inner chimp may or may not make keep up his goal a game record. Have I missed anything?

For what it's worth I like the chimp idea. If it can simplify the workings of the mind for a sportsman so they can then learn how to get the best out of it, how can it harm?

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Re: Dougie Freedman - Ten Months On

Post by Bruce Rioja » Thu Aug 15, 2013 3:40 pm

Peter Reid has an outer chimp as well. I bet he'd keep 'em busy for a while. :?
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Re: Dougie Freedman - Ten Months On

Post by BWFC_Insane » Fri Aug 16, 2013 8:45 am

Dougie's a bit "spiky" in his pre-match interview this week. Excerpts below. I'm still reading to find the "fantastic club terrific manager" quotes.....

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http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/wa ... am_Forest/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: Dougie Freedman - Ten Months On

Post by Lord Kangana » Fri Aug 16, 2013 8:49 am

Must be the tough start to the season that means he's not arsed about points.
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Re: Dougie Freedman - Ten Months On

Post by Wandering Willy » Fri Aug 16, 2013 9:16 am

At the moment I’m not looking at points, wins, losses or where we are in the table
Very Steve Keanesque.

So that just leaves the fans and the rest of the club concerned about league points.

Oh - and Eddie.
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Re: Dougie Freedman - Ten Months On

Post by thebish » Fri Aug 16, 2013 9:35 am

Wandering Willy wrote:
At the moment I’m not looking at points, wins, losses or where we are in the table
Very Steve Keanesque.

So that just leaves the fans and the rest of the club concerned about league points.

Oh - and Eddie.

wins and results and points are irrelevant at this stage - it's about fitness and minutes on the pitch... errr....

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Re: Dougie Freedman - Ten Months On

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Re: Dougie Freedman - Ten Months On

Post by thebish » Fri Aug 16, 2013 10:06 am

"the science people behind the training tell me it's been good."

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Re: Dougie Freedman - Ten Months On

Post by a1 » Fri Aug 16, 2013 10:11 am

Wandering Willy wrote:
Very Steve Keanesque.

So that just leaves the fans and the rest of the club concerned about league points.

Oh - and Eddie.
meh, better that than the coylesque;- ignoring the league table when youre in the bottom three with 2 matches to go and just assuming it'll be ok.

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Re: Dougie Freedman - Ten Months On

Post by a1 » Fri Aug 16, 2013 10:13 am

thebish wrote:"the science people behind the training tell me it's been good."
*some quote from zat knight about not doing defensive training anymore*

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Re: Dougie Freedman - Ten Months On

Post by thebish » Fri Aug 16, 2013 10:14 am

a1 wrote:
Wandering Willy wrote:
Very Steve Keanesque.

So that just leaves the fans and the rest of the club concerned about league points.

Oh - and Eddie.
meh, better that than the coylesque;- ignoring the league table when youre in the bottom three with 2 matches to go and just assuming it'll be ok.

can we not just talk about Dougie on his own merits/demerits for a while without the need to compare him to another manager? I suspect that the judgement "better than coyle" doesn't really say that much and doesn't take us that far!

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Re: Dougie Freedman - Ten Months On

Post by thebish » Fri Aug 16, 2013 10:15 am

a1 wrote:
thebish wrote:"the science people behind the training tell me it's been good."
*some quote from zat knight about not doing defensive training anymore*
really?? I didn't get that far!!

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Re: Dougie Freedman - Ten Months On

Post by BWFC_Insane » Fri Aug 16, 2013 10:16 am

thebish wrote:
a1 wrote:
thebish wrote:"the science people behind the training tell me it's been good."
*some quote from zat knight about not doing defensive training anymore*
really?? I didn't get that far!!
He's taking the Coyle again.....

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