Dougie Freedman - Ten Months On
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thebish wrote:oooh goodie - a FACT battle!!
Half facts surely?
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aye - was only joking - i know what you mean - and broadly agree.. I just wish he'd found a way to use the pre-season to get us up and running and fit rather than treat the first six games as such...Bruce Rioja wrote:Not at all. Perhaps I didn't word it well. If he can do that with a debacle then I've every confidence in him with the current bunch of mainly good players.thebish wrote:nahhh - it's not the be all and end all - I agree - but it's also not entirely unimportant!!
(also - if he turned a debacle around last season - and you're now trusting him to do it again - does that mean he has turned us back into a debacle? b)
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"The most important thing for me is the performances, you get those right and eventually, you'll start to see the results"BWFC_Insane wrote:Managers who talk about performances being more important than points scare me.
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No idea....boltonboris wrote:"The most important thing for me is the performances, you get those right and eventually, you'll start to see the results"BWFC_Insane wrote:Managers who talk about performances being more important than points scare me.
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I think BWFCI will win that one, the minute he asks LK for a list of facts.thebish wrote:oooh goodie - a FACT battle!!

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Ah, but lists of actual facts are always trumped by the inclusion of FACT - and that's a FACTWorthy4England wrote:I think BWFCI will win that one, the minute he asks LK for a list of facts.thebish wrote:oooh goodie - a FACT battle!!

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All trumped by an ITK of course.....Bruce Rioja wrote:Ah, but lists of actual facts are always trumped by the inclusion of FACT - and that's a FACTWorthy4England wrote:I think BWFCI will win that one, the minute he asks LK for a list of facts.thebish wrote:oooh goodie - a FACT battle!!
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Douglas. You were there when he said it.BWFC_Insane wrote:No idea....boltonboris wrote:"The most important thing for me is the performances, you get those right and eventually, you'll start to see the results"BWFC_Insane wrote:Managers who talk about performances being more important than points scare me.
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Ermm yes. He also said it in the preview for Notts Forest video posted here and I said that scares me. Not sure what your point is? Thought you were going to post an example of someone like Mourinho saying it then I could be less scared....boltonboris wrote:Douglas. You were there when he said it.BWFC_Insane wrote:No idea....boltonboris wrote:"The most important thing for me is the performances, you get those right and eventually, you'll start to see the results"BWFC_Insane wrote:Managers who talk about performances being more important than points scare me.
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I thought he was going to do a Bish and find YOU had said it!
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Me too. Literally a damp squid, that one.Prufrock wrote:I thought he was going to do a Bish and find YOU had said it!
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Likely he has somewhere!Prufrock wrote:I thought he was going to do a Bish and find YOU had said it!

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I thought everyone would be on tenderhooksBruce Rioja wrote:Me too. Literally a damp squid, that one.Prufrock wrote:I thought he was going to do a Bish and find YOU had said it!
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Apologies chief. I didn't see the whole convo. Just someone quoting your comment. Thought (assumed) it was a criticism of Coyle as he's said it numerous times. This week. Probably.BWFC_Insane wrote:Ermm yes. He also said it in the preview for Notts Forest video posted here and I said that scares me. Not sure what your point is? Thought you were going to post an example of someone like Mourinho saying it then I could be less scared....boltonboris wrote:Douglas. You were there when he said it.BWFC_Insane wrote:No idea....boltonboris wrote:"The most important thing for me is the performances, you get those right and eventually, you'll start to see the results"BWFC_Insane wrote:Managers who talk about performances being more important than points scare me.
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(I already checked! - he didn't!)Prufrock wrote:I thought he was going to do a Bish and find YOU had said it!
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My favourite is one Verbs either told me about or posted on here:boltonboris wrote:I thought everyone would be on tenderhooksBruce Rioja wrote:Me too. Literally a damp squid, that one.Prufrock wrote:I thought he was going to do a Bish and find YOU had said it!
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Re: Dougie Freedman - Ten Months On
Nah - BWFCi spoiled everything by noting that Dougie might not be perfect and that not everything is black and white. At which, the internet imploded.boltonboris wrote:Apologies chief. I didn't see the whole convo. Just someone quoting your comment. Thought (assumed) it was a criticism of Coyle as he's said it numerous times. This week. Probably.BWFC_Insane wrote:He also said it in the preview for Notts Forest video posted here and I said that scares me. Not sure what your point is? Thought you were going to post an example of someone like Mourinho saying it then I could be less scared....
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Re: Dougie Freedman - Ten Months On
Results will always be more important than performances, of course, but when a team plays well, you have more hope in them than if you play awfully and manage to scrape a win. This was my fear going into this season. So much was made of the fantastic run, results wise, that we went on last season but unfortunately, we rarely played well during that run, so there was always a doubt in my mind as to whether we'd be able to match the results this year if the performances weren't an improvement on last year. The performances haven't improved so far but obviously there's plenty of time left in the season to get the results.
Anyway...
Going out on a limb, I don't think Freedman is a good enough manager to get us promoted. I don't think we'll get in the play-offs with him as manager either. We've got a good squad for this league but I don't think the manager is good enough to get the best out of them. You can't call for him to be sacked at this stage of the season but I don't think he'll fulfill the expectations that he's accepted and us fans and the board demand of him. He's directly responsible for how the team play and that just isn't good enough, nor has it ever been. Too scrappy and nervy defensively and nowhere near enough creativity going forward.
Anyway...
Going out on a limb, I don't think Freedman is a good enough manager to get us promoted. I don't think we'll get in the play-offs with him as manager either. We've got a good squad for this league but I don't think the manager is good enough to get the best out of them. You can't call for him to be sacked at this stage of the season but I don't think he'll fulfill the expectations that he's accepted and us fans and the board demand of him. He's directly responsible for how the team play and that just isn't good enough, nor has it ever been. Too scrappy and nervy defensively and nowhere near enough creativity going forward.
Re: Dougie Freedman - Ten Months On
Freedman is hardly inspiring much confidence just now to be honest.
We still seem to be piss poor at locking up the midfield and as bad as ever defensively
We still seem to be piss poor at locking up the midfield and as bad as ever defensively
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Re: Dougie Freedman - Ten Months On
as long as they don't go down. i dont think i'm that bothered.
i had to support them extra good during the megson out era to counter the m0ngs. but they eventually got their way and coyle came in and everyone were all 'we'll be ok' while he fecked em up and took em down. so, to me , he's ok.
if he starts clapping and hiring assistant towel holders that have no previous employment history, then he can probably feck off.
but he seems sensible enough to not do that.
i had to support them extra good during the megson out era to counter the m0ngs. but they eventually got their way and coyle came in and everyone were all 'we'll be ok' while he fecked em up and took em down. so, to me , he's ok.
if he starts clapping and hiring assistant towel holders that have no previous employment history, then he can probably feck off.
but he seems sensible enough to not do that.
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