Tonight's Football

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Re: Tonight's Football

Post by jaffka » Sun Feb 09, 2014 5:54 pm

boo's at old trafford :lol:

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Re: Tonight's Football

Post by BWFC_Insane » Sun Feb 09, 2014 6:01 pm

Can they afford to keep Moyes any longer? I'd say no.....

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Re: Tonight's Football

Post by Bruce Rioja » Sun Feb 09, 2014 6:40 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:Can they afford to keep Moyes any longer? I'd say no.....
Says Freedman's biggest/only fan. :roll:
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Re: Tonight's Football

Post by BWFC_Insane » Sun Feb 09, 2014 6:45 pm

Bruce Rioja wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:Can they afford to keep Moyes any longer? I'd say no.....
Says Freedman's biggest/only fan. :roll:
It is hardly comparable is it?

They can afford to go out and get a top manager and furnish him with the resources to rebuild their team.

We can do neither of those things.

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Re: Tonight's Football

Post by Annoyed Grunt » Sun Feb 09, 2014 6:50 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:Can they afford to keep Moyes any longer? I'd say no.....
Why not? They would've expected a transitional season, if the same happens next year, then he's gone....

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Re: Tonight's Football

Post by Bruce Rioja » Sun Feb 09, 2014 6:52 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:
Bruce Rioja wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:Can they afford to keep Moyes any longer? I'd say no.....
Says Freedman's biggest/only fan. :roll:
It is hardly comparable is it?

They can afford to go out and get a top manager and furnish him with the resources to rebuild their team.

We can do neither of those things.
Hardly comparable? It bloody well is to me, mate. In fact it's far more pertinent in our case. Our position is considerably more precarious. Hasn't this occurred to you? :conf:
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Re: Tonight's Football

Post by BWFC_Insane » Sun Feb 09, 2014 6:53 pm

Annoyed Grunt wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:Can they afford to keep Moyes any longer? I'd say no.....
Why not? They would've expected a transitional season, if the same happens next year, then he's gone....
Transitional, perhaps. Scrambling around in 7th? Nah. Relatively that is probably their equivalent to Bolton being bottom of the championship. Or something like that.

IMO they cannot afford, to miss out on the champions league. Not financially, but more in terms of their ability to attract the top players they need.

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Re: Tonight's Football

Post by BWFC_Insane » Sun Feb 09, 2014 6:54 pm

Bruce Rioja wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:
Bruce Rioja wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:Can they afford to keep Moyes any longer? I'd say no.....
Says Freedman's biggest/only fan. :roll:
It is hardly comparable is it?

They can afford to go out and get a top manager and furnish him with the resources to rebuild their team.

We can do neither of those things.
Hardly comparable? It bloody well is to me, mate. In fact it's far more pertinent in our case. Our position is considerably more precarious. Hasn't this occurred to you? :conf:
Our expectations and relative judgement of performances is totally different to Man Utds always has been.

We are in a precarious position and not just this season or our league position. I can only see a lot of struggle for us for a long while now, irrespective of who our manager is.

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Re: Tonight's Football

Post by Annoyed Grunt » Sun Feb 09, 2014 6:57 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:
Annoyed Grunt wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:Can they afford to keep Moyes any longer? I'd say no.....
Why not? They would've expected a transitional season, if the same happens next year, then he's gone....
Transitional, perhaps. Scrambling around in 7th? Nah. Relatively that is probably their equivalent to Bolton being bottom of the championship. Or something like that.

IMO they cannot afford, to miss out on the champions league. Not financially, but more in terms of their ability to attract the top players they need.
Guess it all depends on how it's sold to them. Look at Suarez at Liverpool...he wanted out to play CL football.....yet he's still there......and will possibly play CL football with them..

They won't sack him, this season....

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Re: Tonight's Football

Post by Prufrock » Sun Feb 09, 2014 7:06 pm

No chance missing the top four will stop players going I don't think. Not the first time. Let's say Everton, or even Liverpool or Spurs get 4th and you pick between them and Utd. They'll still go with the Rags.
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Re: Tonight's Football

Post by Bruce Rioja » Sun Feb 09, 2014 7:28 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote: Our expectations and relative judgement of performances is totally different to Man Utds always has been.

We are in a precarious position and not just this season or our league position. I can only see a lot of struggle for us for a long while now, irrespective of who our manager is.
I only care about our position. Our expectations are relative to those of supporters of absolutely any other club!
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Re: Tonight's Football

Post by BWFC_Insane » Sun Feb 09, 2014 7:33 pm

Prufrock wrote:No chance missing the top four will stop players going I don't think. Not the first time. Let's say Everton, or even Liverpool or Spurs get 4th and you pick between them and Utd. They'll still go with the Rags.
There are only so many genuine top players and those that are available IMO will be more likely to go to a champions league side. Not necessarily Everton or Liverpool, but say Chelsea and Man Utd want the same player, it could seriously hamper UTD in what looks like a big rebuild to me.....

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Re: Tonight's Football

Post by Hoboh » Sun Feb 09, 2014 7:59 pm

I hope Fergies phone is off :lol:

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Re: Tonight's Football

Post by jaffka » Sun Feb 09, 2014 11:55 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:Can they afford to keep Moyes any longer? I'd say no.....
the behind the scenes stuff though is apparently tremendous

at least try and have some consistency :roll:

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Re: Tonight's Football

Post by bobo the clown » Mon Feb 10, 2014 12:14 am

jaffka wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:Can they afford to keep Moyes any longer? I'd say no.....
the behind the scenes stuff though is apparently tremendous

at least try and have some consistency :roll:
Ha.

Is he getting people to re-learn how to run yet ?
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Re: Tonight's Football

Post by BWFC_Insane » Mon Feb 10, 2014 9:56 am

jaffka wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:Can they afford to keep Moyes any longer? I'd say no.....
the behind the scenes stuff though is apparently tremendous

at least try and have some consistency :roll:
Man Utd and Bolton, aye I suppose the two situations really warrant 'consistency'.

Nobody on here is consistent, least of all you. It is an ever changing world.

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Re: Tonight's Football

Post by jaffka » Mon Feb 10, 2014 10:22 am

BWFC_Insane wrote:
jaffka wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:Can they afford to keep Moyes any longer? I'd say no.....
the behind the scenes stuff though is apparently tremendous

at least try and have some consistency :roll:
Man Utd and Bolton, aye I suppose the two situations really warrant 'consistency'.

Nobody on here is consistent, least of all you. It is an ever changing world.
oh, I am consistent in that I want and enjoy seeing manure struggle and lose. I am more than happy that Moyes is at the helm overseeing this downturn in their fortunes. Appears that you aren't!

I also want Bolton to do well, win games etc...that isn't happening, clearly. I think any idiot would agree with that :laugh:

Sounds pretty consistent to me.

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Re: Tonight's Football

Post by bwfcdan94 » Mon Feb 10, 2014 12:06 pm

Moyes will have till the end of the season imo.
The above post is complete bollox/garbage/nonsense, please point this out to me at any and every occasion possible.

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Re: Tonight's Football

Post by boltonboris » Mon Feb 10, 2014 12:13 pm

He'll have until around this point next year minimum, in my opinion. The fans in the stands support him. They know he's got a big job on his hands and his previous record shows he is a capable manager. Took him a while to turn Everton from a bunch of cloggers to a regular top half + side.
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Re: Tonight's Football

Post by BWFC_Insane » Mon Feb 10, 2014 3:21 pm

boltonboris wrote:He'll have until around this point next year minimum, in my opinion. The fans in the stands support him. They know he's got a big job on his hands and his previous record shows he is a capable manager. Took him a while to turn Everton from a bunch of cloggers to a regular top half + side.
The oft quoted line from Utd fans I know is 'These players won the league last season.....'

I'm not convinced patience is as prevalent as suggested, from the fans at least. Were Fergie not telling them all they should back him, there'd be Moyes out chants I reckon..... The owners and board, I think will stick with him though.

Interesting to see if he can turn it round.

It is all relative, but in terms of being the 'Manchester United manager' his previous record is in my view incredibly questionable.

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