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Re: Abdoulaye's going t'Souk transfer thread

Post by TANGODANCER » Sun Jul 20, 2014 1:47 pm

Despite him worrying the shxt out of me at times, I'm beginning to feel a wee bit sorry for Douglas. He's trying to compete on a very uneven playing field with guys with money when he obviously has none. A bit like seeing punters banging big money on favourites and you putting a pound each way on a wing and a prayer chance. Much is up to the players and I just hope he can get them motivated to fight like Bolton Wanderers.
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Re: Abdoulaye's going t'Souk transfer thread

Post by Bruce Rioja » Sun Jul 20, 2014 2:01 pm

TKIZ! wrote:SSN suggesting that Everton, Hull and Celtic are interested in a deal for Modou Barrow (the young lad we've had on trial and unable to stump up 600k for)
Sweden informs me that he scored two on Friday night.
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Re: Abdoulaye's going t'Souk transfer thread

Post by Lord Kangana » Sun Jul 20, 2014 2:43 pm

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Lord Kangana wrote:Get his not inconsiderable wages off the books?

Remember, we're waging an unremitting war on a debt that simultaneously no-one needs to worry about because it doesn't exist. Apart from when it does.
The debt isn't the driver

Its FFP

But aye, his high wages and his inability to last more than a dozen games are the only reasons we'd be right to get shut

:fishing:

And its a whopper by all accounts.
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Re: Abdoulaye's going t'Souk transfer thread

Post by mcflykyle182 » Sun Jul 20, 2014 3:24 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:
ChrisC wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:
ChrisC wrote:That article refers to Mark as "the English iniesta"

Mark is a quality player but are they having a laugh? :lol:

Reminds me more of Jack Wilshere than Iniesta.

He deserves better than QPR aswell.
Deserves better? What has he done so far apart from be injured for the majority of his time here?

He's got talent but hasn't shown anything significant here yet.

I will be surprised if a premiership club came in for him at this point. Have a good first half of the season, catch some headlines and it might be different....
Most Bolton fans regard him as our best player. Injured or not he has shown his class and has performed in the prem with us.

That's why Swansea bid 5 million for him and why others are showing interest.
Had the odd good game, yes. Shown that he can make a real impact at top flight or indeed this level? No.

I'd rather have Juke than Mark Davies for next season.

And I'd not pay £5m for Juke. But his impact for this club has been bigger than Davies' has yet.

Not doubting Davies' talent. But he has to show more than flashes before he can be regarded of deserving or even being good enough for top flight football, IMO.

I think Mavies has shown that he's more deserving of prem football than Juke. Davies played well for us in the top tier, Jutkiewicz scored 7 in the championship for us.
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Re: Abdoulaye's going t'Souk transfer thread

Post by CAPSLOCK » Sun Jul 20, 2014 3:52 pm

Lord Kangana wrote:
CAPSLOCK wrote:
Lord Kangana wrote:Get his not inconsiderable wages off the books?

Remember, we're waging an unremitting war on a debt that simultaneously no-one needs to worry about because it doesn't exist. Apart from when it does.
The debt isn't the driver

Its FFP

But aye, his high wages and his inability to last more than a dozen games are the only reasons we'd be right to get shut


:fishing:

And its a whopper by all accounts.
I long since concluded everything you post is that of a :fishing:

Nobody could believe such shit

Anyroad, hows Benstead doing if we're talking whoppers :lol: :lol:
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Re: Abdoulaye's going t'Souk transfer thread

Post by BWFC_Insane » Sun Jul 20, 2014 3:59 pm

Prufrock wrote:I think it's unfair to say he's shown it in flashes. That implies he's inconsistent by nature which I don't think he is. He's consistently good, but he's also injury-prone.
When Nolan was at his best he was an absolute driving force for our side. Game in game out. He's done similar at West Ham.

Mark Davies for me has never been absolutely centrally critical. He perhaps was when he got injured, and I'm far from blaming him per se.

But how many times can we say we really really lost Davies' impact in the same way we did for Holden and even Muamba at times?

My point is he has to become absolutely central to us rather than someone who is very talented and plays well sometimes......

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Post by Andy Waller » Sun Jul 20, 2014 4:20 pm

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Prufrock wrote:I think it's unfair to say he's shown it in flashes. That implies he's inconsistent by nature which I don't think he is. He's consistently good, but he's also injury-prone.
When Nolan was at his best he was an absolute driving force for our side. Game in game out. He's done similar at West Ham.

Mark Davies for me has never been absolutely centrally critical. He perhaps was when he got injured, and I'm far from blaming him per se.

But how many times can we say we really really lost Davies' impact in the same way we did for Holden and even Muamba at times?

My point is he has to become absolutely central to us rather than someone who is very talented and plays well sometimes......
I agree totally.

he does seem to be talented, but drifts in and out of a game. If he's worth anything, get rid.
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Post by bwfcdan94 » Sun Jul 20, 2014 4:51 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:
Prufrock wrote:I think it's unfair to say he's shown it in flashes. That implies he's inconsistent by nature which I don't think he is. He's consistently good, but he's also injury-prone.
When Nolan was at his best he was an absolute driving force for our side. Game in game out. He's done similar at West Ham.

Mark Davies for me has never been absolutely centrally critical. He perhaps was when he got injured, and I'm far from blaming him per se.

But how many times can we say we really really lost Davies' impact in the same way we did for Holden and even Muamba at times?

My point is he has to become absolutely central to us rather than someone who is very talented and plays well sometimes......
I would say he is better than Holden but not Muamba, I don't think any of the above are essential to our team because we don't seem to have stars any more.
The above post is complete bollox/garbage/nonsense, please point this out to me at any and every occasion possible.

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Post by Bijou Bob » Sun Jul 20, 2014 7:33 pm

Bruce Rioja wrote:
TKIZ! wrote:SSN suggesting that Everton, Hull and Celtic are interested in a deal for Modou Barrow (the young lad we've had on trial and unable to stump up 600k for)
Sweden informs me that he scored two on Friday night.
Who was that South African bloke we were chasing years ago along with Celtic, Blackburn etc? He eventually signed for Pompey and I don't think he ever played a game for them. If someone else gets the lad, meh.
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Re: Abdoulaye's going t'Souk transfer thread

Post by Lord Kangana » Sun Jul 20, 2014 7:41 pm

CAPSLOCK wrote:
Lord Kangana wrote:
CAPSLOCK wrote:
Lord Kangana wrote:Get his not inconsiderable wages off the books?

Remember, we're waging an unremitting war on a debt that simultaneously no-one needs to worry about because it doesn't exist. Apart from when it does.
The debt isn't the driver

Its FFP

But aye, his high wages and his inability to last more than a dozen games are the only reasons we'd be right to get shut


:fishing:

And its a whopper by all accounts.
I long since concluded everything you post is that of a :fishing:

Nobody could believe such shit

Anyroad, hows Benstead doing if we're talking whoppers :lol: :lol:
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Post by Burnden Paddock » Sun Jul 20, 2014 7:41 pm

Bijou Bob wrote:
Bruce Rioja wrote:
TKIZ! wrote:SSN suggesting that Everton, Hull and Celtic are interested in a deal for Modou Barrow (the young lad we've had on trial and unable to stump up 600k for)
Sweden informs me that he scored two on Friday night.
Who was that South African bloke we were chasing years ago along with Celtic, Blackburn etc? He eventually signed for Pompey and I don't think he ever played a game for them. If someone else gets the lad, meh.
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Re: Abdoulaye's going t'Souk transfer thread

Post by bobo the clown » Sun Jul 20, 2014 7:46 pm

Burnden Paddock wrote:
Bijou Bob wrote:
Bruce Rioja wrote:
TKIZ! wrote:SSN suggesting that Everton, Hull and Celtic are interested in a deal for Modou Barrow (the young lad we've had on trial and unable to stump up 600k for)
Sweden informs me that he scored two on Friday night.
Who was that South African bloke we were chasing years ago along with Celtic, Blackburn etc? He eventually signed for Pompey and I don't think he ever played a game for them. If someone else gets the lad, meh.
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Post by Prufrock » Sun Jul 20, 2014 9:02 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:
Prufrock wrote:I think it's unfair to say he's shown it in flashes. That implies he's inconsistent by nature which I don't think he is. He's consistently good, but he's also injury-prone.
When Nolan was at his best he was an absolute driving force for our side. Game in game out. He's done similar at West Ham.

Mark Davies for me has never been absolutely centrally critical. He perhaps was when he got injured, and I'm far from blaming him per se.

But how many times can we say we really really lost Davies' impact in the same way we did for Holden and even Muamba at times?

My point is he has to become absolutely central to us rather than someone who is very talented and plays well sometimes......
I think that misses the less obvious stuff he does for us. The driving at the defence making things happen bit is inconsistent, but tbf people who can do that regularly cost £25m. He's the only one in the middle with a brain (which is odd given the stories of his intelligence off the pitch!) If you're going to create space in the final third you've got to move teams about before then. It's no use playing in slow straight lines until you're 30 yards out. He's the only one of our midfielders who'll come and get the ball off the centre-half, turn and then stick a ball five yards in front of a reluctant full back and make them get on the front foot. That kind of probing often goes unnoticed but he's fecking good at it.
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Post by Worthy4England » Sun Jul 20, 2014 9:16 pm

I guess, I must just be unnoticing quite a lot.

When I don't notice him, I'd put it down to him doing fcuk all.

Whar a silly billy I've been.... :-)

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Post by Prufrock » Sun Jul 20, 2014 9:28 pm

Worthy4England wrote:I guess, I must just be unnoticing quite a lot.

When I don't notice him, I'd put it down to him doing fcuk all.

Whar a silly billy I've been.... :-)
The rest of them look like footballers when he plays. Plenty of them don't when he doesn't.
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Post by Worthy4England » Sun Jul 20, 2014 9:39 pm

Prufrock wrote:
Worthy4England wrote:I guess, I must just be unnoticing quite a lot.

When I don't notice him, I'd put it down to him doing fcuk all.

Whar a silly billy I've been.... :-)
The rest of them look like footballers when he plays. Plenty of them don't when he doesn't.
Sometimes. Sometimes not. If I look at that pikey Stephen Hunt, he seems to drive whichever team he's playing for every fecking game (against us). Mavies does it about 1 game in 10.

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Post by Spartan2 » Sun Jul 20, 2014 10:43 pm

Mavies is nothing special IMO. Never performed for us in the prem. No one can find a position for him because he doesn't have an all-round game. Contributed very little since he signed. Constantly injured. People seem to rate him because he can dribble a bit but what few people seem to get, is that's not a very effective asset. I wonder if the same people who rate Mavies also rated Eagles. The only thing he's got in common with Iniesta is his height!
bwfcdan94 wrote:I would say he is better than Holden.
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Post by BWFC_Insane » Sun Jul 20, 2014 10:50 pm

Spartan2 wrote:Mavies is nothing special IMO. Never performed for us in the prem. No one can find a position for him because he doesn't have an all-round game. Contributed very little since he signed. Constantly injured. People seem to rate him because he can dribble a bit but what few people seem to get, is that's not a very effective asset. I wonder if the same people who rate Mavies also rated Eagles. The only thing he's got in common with Iniesta is his height!
bwfcdan94 wrote:I would say he is better than Holden.
Are you on crack?
I'm not sure it is a question of talent. Mark Davies has talent.

But he's 26 and hasn't come close to being the player Kevin Nolan was for is. I use Nolan as an example, because whilst he is a different type of player they essentially both play as attacking midfield players.

I don't think any premiership side would pick Davies ahead of Nolan. And that's where he is for me. In the pool of players who have lots of talent but by the age of 26 haven't really done anything of any great note.

I like Mark Davies and hope we keep him because I think he can offer something. But he's actually got to perform this season and make a real sustained difference. An actual difference in terms of end product and controlling the midfield. Not the odd run then 10 minutes of nothing. If he does that for a season then perhaps you can talk in terms of earning a premiership chance. But let's see.....

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Post by Worthy4England » Sun Jul 20, 2014 10:51 pm

Spartan2 wrote:Mavies is nothing special IMO. Never performed for us in the prem. No one can find a position for him because he doesn't have an all-round game. Contributed very little since he signed. Constantly injured. People seem to rate him because he can dribble a bit but what few people seem to get, is that's not a very effective asset. I wonder if the same people who rate Mavies also rated Eagles. The only thing he's got in common with Iniesta is his height!
bwfcdan94 wrote:I would say he is better than Holden.
Are you on crack?
I'm sorta with you, but I actually think Eagles had contributed more in his time with us.

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