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Re: You take the high road...

Post by bobo the clown » Sat Aug 30, 2014 8:22 am

Jakerbeef wrote:Far be it for me to be facetious (heh) but you guys do like us Scottish folk right?

I mean on the whole.
Not especially. Not so as you'd notice. Maybe about as much as the Scott like the English.
Not advocating mass-murder as an entirely positive experience, of course, but it had its moments.
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Re: You take the high road...

Post by Hoboh » Sat Aug 30, 2014 10:54 am

Jakerbeef wrote:Far be it for me to be facetious (heh) but you guys do like us Scottish folk right?

I mean on the whole.
Correct, it is those who just blame the 'English' for everything whilst conveiniently ignoring the amount of their own countrymen who share the 'blame' for Scotlands position.
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Re: You take the high road...

Post by thebish » Sat Aug 30, 2014 10:56 am

bobo the clown wrote:
Jakerbeef wrote:Far be it for me to be facetious (heh) but you guys do like us Scottish folk right?

I mean on the whole.
Not especially. Not so as you'd notice. Maybe about as much as the Scott like the English.
bobo's only jealous cos we notice the scots more than we do the welsh... :wink:

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Re: You take the high road...

Post by Hoboh » Sat Aug 30, 2014 10:59 am

thebish wrote:
bobo the clown wrote:
Jakerbeef wrote:Far be it for me to be facetious (heh) but you guys do like us Scottish folk right?

I mean on the whole.
Not especially. Not so as you'd notice. Maybe about as much as the Scott like the English.
bobo's only jealous cos we notice the scots more than we do the welsh... :wink:
Well the Welsh don't jump on tables at the end of the night screaming death to the Sassenachs even if the afore mentioned happend to be his mates a few pints ago :mrgreen:

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Re: You take the high road...

Post by Prufrock » Sat Aug 30, 2014 6:22 pm

I get on really well with all the Scots I know. There's a rivalry come six nations time but otherwise they're ace. Fortunately only ever come across one of the genuine 'hate the English' types.

Survey last week had 63% of Scots thinking positively about the English and only 52% of English and Welsh thinking positively about the Scots, so the idea that 'we'd like them if only they'd stop hating the English' may well be bollocks.
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Re: You take the high road...

Post by Bruce Rioja » Sat Aug 30, 2014 6:44 pm

At least 90% of the Jocks I know live in England. Go figure!
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Re: You take the high road...

Post by thebish » Sat Aug 30, 2014 8:49 pm

Bruce Rioja wrote:At least 90% of the Jocks I know live in England. Go figure!
cos you live in England? :conf:

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Post by Bruce Rioja » Sat Aug 30, 2014 9:00 pm

thebish wrote:
Bruce Rioja wrote:At least 90% of the Jocks I know live in England. Go figure!
cos you live in England? :conf:

Well, yes!
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Re: You take the high road...

Post by Hoboh » Sun Aug 31, 2014 10:05 pm

thebish wrote:
Bruce Rioja wrote:At least 90% of the Jocks I know live in England. Go figure!
cos you live in England? :conf:
No, because Scotland is such a nice place with pots of gold under the bed, they couldn't wait to get away :mrgreen:

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Post by Abdoulaye's Twin » Thu Sep 04, 2014 12:54 pm

They sent Milliband up to Scotland I see. They really want rid of Scotland don't they? :?

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Post by Bruce Rioja » Thu Sep 04, 2014 1:00 pm

See, regardless as to which way the vote goes, is it not fair to assume that they're going to end up with a divided nation afterwards? One side's not going to turn to the other and say "Oh yeah look, you were right".
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Post by Gary the Enfield » Thu Sep 04, 2014 1:37 pm

I'm looking forward to a 40th Birthday party over in Donegal next month.

A real mix of Thurso Scots and badlands Irish and we'll be the only English there. :grin:

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Post by Abdoulaye's Twin » Thu Sep 04, 2014 1:51 pm

Bruce Rioja wrote:See, regardless as to which way the vote goes, is it not fair to assume that they're going to end up with a divided nation afterwards? One side's not going to turn to the other and say "Oh yeah look, you were right".
Judging by my Facebook feed it is pretty divided already. I have a daily stream of regurgitated shite saying how thick you are if you vote no because the no campaign are negative bullies. Anyone stating something pro-no is jumped upon and bullied far more than anything I've seen since leaving school in the 80s. Quite pathetic.

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Re: You take the high road...

Post by Bruce Rioja » Thu Sep 04, 2014 1:59 pm

Abdoulaye's Twin wrote:
Bruce Rioja wrote:See, regardless as to which way the vote goes, is it not fair to assume that they're going to end up with a divided nation afterwards? One side's not going to turn to the other and say "Oh yeah look, you were right".
Judging by my Facebook feed it is pretty divided already. I have a daily stream of regurgitated shite saying how thick you are if you vote no because the no campaign are negative bullies. Anyone stating something pro-no is jumped upon and bullied far more than anything I've seen since leaving school in the 80s. Quite pathetic.
I'm seeing exactly the same on mine. Also this morning, some shite about 'If you vote no then you haven't been listening to any of the debate' which went onto suggest that - and even if you have and you still vote no then you're too stupid to have understood it anyway.
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Post by Abdoulaye's Twin » Thu Sep 04, 2014 2:08 pm

Bruce Rioja wrote:
Abdoulaye's Twin wrote:
Bruce Rioja wrote:See, regardless as to which way the vote goes, is it not fair to assume that they're going to end up with a divided nation afterwards? One side's not going to turn to the other and say "Oh yeah look, you were right".
Judging by my Facebook feed it is pretty divided already. I have a daily stream of regurgitated shite saying how thick you are if you vote no because the no campaign are negative bullies. Anyone stating something pro-no is jumped upon and bullied far more than anything I've seen since leaving school in the 80s. Quite pathetic.
I'm seeing exactly the same on mine. Also this morning, some shite about 'If you vote no then you haven't been listening to any of the debate' which went onto suggest that - and even if you have and you still vote no then you're too stupid to have understood it anyway.
I've been watching these so called debates, both the Salmond ones and the QT style ones. There has been little debate and lots of you're making it up, no you're making it up and my expert is more expert than your expert.

Mrs AT is Scottish and I'm part Scottish. She's pissed off that she has no say in the whole thing.

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Post by Montreal Wanderer » Thu Sep 04, 2014 3:23 pm

Bruce Rioja wrote:
Abdoulaye's Twin wrote:
Bruce Rioja wrote:See, regardless as to which way the vote goes, is it not fair to assume that they're going to end up with a divided nation afterwards? One side's not going to turn to the other and say "Oh yeah look, you were right".
Judging by my Facebook feed it is pretty divided already. I have a daily stream of regurgitated shite saying how thick you are if you vote no because the no campaign are negative bullies. Anyone stating something pro-no is jumped upon and bullied far more than anything I've seen since leaving school in the 80s. Quite pathetic.
I'm seeing exactly the same on mine. Also this morning, some shite about 'If you vote no then you haven't been listening to any of the debate' which went onto suggest that - and even if you have and you still vote no then you're too stupid to have understood it anyway.
I've lived through two such referenda. They are extremely divisive (even within the same family let alone neighbourhood) and the wounds take years to heal.
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Re: You take the high road...

Post by bobo the clown » Thu Sep 04, 2014 3:31 pm

In fact, I fear that upon losing a rump of the bullies of the 'Yes' camp will consider their options and we may have a period of lowish-level direct action and possible even a period of terrorist activity. More like Wales in the 70's and 80's than Northern Ireland but some serious development nonetheless.
Not advocating mass-murder as an entirely positive experience, of course, but it had its moments.
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Post by bobo the clown » Thu Sep 04, 2014 6:25 pm

Just a question.... & I don't think the final result will be a "yes" btw ... the vote is in 2 weeks. Results more or less immediate. If it IS a "yes" the separation is gauged for a year or 18 months later as there will be a lot of organisation needed. Meanwhile there's a General Election in May.

Would the Scotties get a vote in that ?
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Re: You take the high road...

Post by Abdoulaye's Twin » Thu Sep 04, 2014 6:29 pm

Realistically the separation will take longer than 18 months. I suspect the Scots wont get a vote in a GE, but you can bet Salmond has told them they will :roll:

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Re: You take the high road...

Post by CrazyHorse » Thu Sep 04, 2014 6:32 pm

Of course they'll get a vote. They're voting for their local MP who'll be their representation until the formal split. Until that day it's still business as usual.
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