Next Up - Freeman's Replacement
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WHAT?!?!! he's a character as evidenced by this jumper. A colourful maverick sartorially and in skin-tone who flouts convention and plays by his own rules. All the right attributes for a decent manager, or Bargain Hunt presenter.SmokinFrazier wrote:If Phil Brown got the job, I wouldn't attend a game until he got sacked. Not only is he a terrible manager but he's an arrogant, egotistical bully too and I'd hate him to be anywhere near our club again unless Andy Todd is locked in the same room as him. I'd genuinely rather have Coyle back or have stuck with Freedman than go with Brown.

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LeverEnd wrote:You sick animal, you're laughing at death!EverSoYouri wrote:Wake up, people - Phoenix Nights/Max and Paddy reference almost slipped under the radar!LeverEnd wrote:Question is will the Bolton Coroners Office require compensation when we go for Mixu Paatelainen?
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Oracle update...
Seems to think Mixu and Mowbray not in the frame. Seems to be narrowing it down to:
Mackay
Lennon
Clarke
Hughton
Whilst understanding the reservations people have about MacKay and Lennon (I too have some reservations about both). And Clarke hasn't actually been "at it" that long as a Manager...I could probably just about live with any of the four (if indeed it's from that four that we're going to pick)
Seems to think Mixu and Mowbray not in the frame. Seems to be narrowing it down to:
Mackay
Lennon
Clarke
Hughton
Whilst understanding the reservations people have about MacKay and Lennon (I too have some reservations about both). And Clarke hasn't actually been "at it" that long as a Manager...I could probably just about live with any of the four (if indeed it's from that four that we're going to pick)
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I would also go for Lennon, otherwise I think Garry Flitcroft has a lot of potential.
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Bruce Rioja wrote:We were saying that. Had an air of Rioch about him.bobo the clown wrote:I have to say, & with full knowledge that I have no knowledge of the guy, but Andy Hughes taking the reigns on Saturday and the subsequent press and interviews he looks like a man for the future. Very mature & level headed even if he is inevitably very short term.
Yep. Not sure whether that speaks to 'keep him here' or encourage him to find a job in management asap? (So we can tag him as our next manager after whoever lands in the next fortnight).
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Yeah, I can understand that most people will be a bit puzzled by the extremity of my dislike for Brown, but it's because I personally know he's a bully. I've got no time for him at all, he's scum and I don't want him involved in Bolton again.Bruce Rioja wrote:Well, I wouldn't stop going, but that's exactly where I am with Phil BrownSmokinFrazier wrote:If Phil Brown got the job, I wouldn't attend a game until he got sacked. Not only is he a terrible manager but he's an arrogant, egotistical bully too and I'd hate him to be anywhere near our club again unless Andy Todd is locked in the same room as him. I'd genuinely rather have Coyle back or have stuck with Freedman than go with Brown.
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LennonWorthy4England wrote:Oracle update...
Seems to think Mixu and Mowbray not in the frame. Seems to be narrowing it down to:
Mackay
Lennon
Clarke
Hughton
Whilst understanding the reservations people have about MacKay and Lennon (I too have some reservations about both). And Clarke hasn't actually been "at it" that long as a Manager...I could probably just about live with any of the four (if indeed it's from that four that we're going to pick)
Clarke
Hughton
Mackay
in order for me.
Happy with any of the first three. My worry about both Clarke and Hughton is they had reputations at West Brom and Norwich for being too safety first, though I suppose both could argue that was the nature of their club in the Prem. Don't remember seeing much of Hughton's brum (though know he gave youth a chance, mainly through necessity) or his Newcastle. Clarke well into the Sports Science jazz too which is a plus for me.
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SmokinFrazier wrote:Yeah, I can understand that most people will be a bit puzzled by the extremity of my dislike for Brown, but it's because I personally know he's a bully. I've got no time for him at all, he's scum and I don't want him involved in Bolton again.Bruce Rioja wrote:Well, I wouldn't stop going, but that's exactly where I am with Phil BrownSmokinFrazier wrote:If Phil Brown got the job, I wouldn't attend a game until he got sacked. Not only is he a terrible manager but he's an arrogant, egotistical bully too and I'd hate him to be anywhere near our club again unless Andy Todd is locked in the same room as him. I'd genuinely rather have Coyle back or have stuck with Freedman than go with Brown.

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I'd settle for any of those or Mowbray, in fact any of those would probably tempt me back to the Macron.Worthy4England wrote:Oracle update...
Seems to think Mixu and Mowbray not in the frame. Seems to be narrowing it down to:
Mackay
Lennon
Clarke
Hughton
Whilst understanding the reservations people have about MacKay and Lennon (I too have some reservations about both). And Clarke hasn't actually been "at it" that long as a Manager...I could probably just about live with any of the four (if indeed it's from that four that we're going to pick)
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That's an impressive shortlist.Worthy4England wrote:Oracle update...
Seems to think Mixu and Mowbray not in the frame. Seems to be narrowing it down to:
Mackay
Lennon
Clarke
Hughton
Whilst understanding the reservations people have about MacKay and Lennon (I too have some reservations about both). And Clarke hasn't actually been "at it" that long as a Manager...I could probably just about live with any of the four (if indeed it's from that four that we're going to pick)
Lennon is an interesting candidate. I think it'd work in the short term because he's developed a really good reputation after his work with Celtic, particularly in Europe, so bringing in someone highly thought of would surely lift the mood of the players and fans. I'm not sure about him as a manager though. Winning the title in Scotland doesn't say a lot but the players seemed to like him a lot and he did exceed expectations in Europe, so maybe he is a good manager? He's unproven in a tough job like ours but he's done enough to warrant a chance.
I'd be optimistic for our future if we got any of those four though.
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The good news is, we've saved you a seat.Peter Thompson wrote:I'd settle for any of those or Mowbray, in fact any of those would probably tempt me back to the Macron.Worthy4England wrote:Oracle update...
Seems to think Mixu and Mowbray not in the frame. Seems to be narrowing it down to:
Mackay
Lennon
Clarke
Hughton
Whilst understanding the reservations people have about MacKay and Lennon (I too have some reservations about both). And Clarke hasn't actually been "at it" that long as a Manager...I could probably just about live with any of the four (if indeed it's from that four that we're going to pick)

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I'd pay good money to see Lenton watch Trotter in training !!
I doubt we'd get the chance to see him playing for him.
I doubt we'd get the chance to see him playing for him.
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bobo the clown wrote:I'd pay good money to see Lenton watch Trotter in training !!


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I can.thebish wrote:bobo the clown wrote:I'd pay good money to see Lenton watch Trotter in training !!
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That would be a great short list if it's accurate.
Don't bet against another one from left field by our Phil though. Some useless git who shares the same agent. Appleton probably
Don't bet against another one from left field by our Phil though. Some useless git who shares the same agent. Appleton probably

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How very dare you (or Phil for that matter)? This is a list from the Oracle...Harry Genshaw wrote:That would be a great short list if it's accurate.
Don't bet against another one from left field by our Phil though. Some useless git who shares the same agent. Appleton probably
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Nostradamus Nixon?Worthy4England wrote:How very dare you (or Phil for that matter)? This is a list from the Oracle...Harry Genshaw wrote:That would be a great short list if it's accurate.
Don't bet against another one from left field by our Phil though. Some useless git who shares the same agent. Appleton probably
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Of the Nixon four...
Malky Mackay - Did a good job in difficult circumstances at Cardiff and took them up playing really good football. I don't believe him to be a racist and I do believe that it's accepted he only actually sent two of them (with the others sent to him by Moody).
Regardless of that, the whole affair made him look (at best) an unfunny, laddish oaf. At a time when the club is already divided, do we need his baggage? I think before we even approached him Gartside would need to gauge the opinion of the players to get their opinions and if they could work with him. Even then, would it put players off signing for us?
Beyond that, he did sign some right shite when Cardiff went up and had the luxury of a decent amount of money to get them there in the first place. That's not a huge issue as no-one is expecting him to take us up, but it's worth noting that his record at Watford (without money) is almost identical to Dougie's here.
Chris Hughton - Probably the smart choice. Decent (but not extensive) experience of the Championship where he did what was necessary with Newcastle and a very good job at Birmingham. Also seems a thoroughly decent man who knows the game.
I wasn't bowled over by him at Norwich though. I know it's tough gig trying to keep them up, but the signings looked haphazard and I'm not sure how inspirational I'd find him.
Neil Lennon - Despite explicitly not having what I wanted from the new manager (Championship experience), I'm coming round to this. The SPL might be a pub league, but he won it well and performed minor miracles in the Champions League by getting them through the group stage and beating Barcelona, all of it on a fraction of what other Champions League clubs were spending.
I think he's the type of character players would respond to. Regardless of what he has or hasn't achieved, he's a big name and would be seen as a coup for us. If from the outset the players (both those at the club and anyone were trying to sign) believe we have a manager who is going places and can get the best out of them, that's half the job done.
Steve Clarke - Is undoubtedly a good coach and did pretty well at West Brom for my money. Would be another who is inexperienced and I would worry about his ability to turn it around if things did start to spiral downwards. On the other hand, he's got a point to prove and has been coaching at the top level for 16 years.
I'd go Lennon, Hughton, Clarke, Mackay. But all >>>>>>> Dougie.
Malky Mackay - Did a good job in difficult circumstances at Cardiff and took them up playing really good football. I don't believe him to be a racist and I do believe that it's accepted he only actually sent two of them (with the others sent to him by Moody).
Regardless of that, the whole affair made him look (at best) an unfunny, laddish oaf. At a time when the club is already divided, do we need his baggage? I think before we even approached him Gartside would need to gauge the opinion of the players to get their opinions and if they could work with him. Even then, would it put players off signing for us?
Beyond that, he did sign some right shite when Cardiff went up and had the luxury of a decent amount of money to get them there in the first place. That's not a huge issue as no-one is expecting him to take us up, but it's worth noting that his record at Watford (without money) is almost identical to Dougie's here.
Chris Hughton - Probably the smart choice. Decent (but not extensive) experience of the Championship where he did what was necessary with Newcastle and a very good job at Birmingham. Also seems a thoroughly decent man who knows the game.
I wasn't bowled over by him at Norwich though. I know it's tough gig trying to keep them up, but the signings looked haphazard and I'm not sure how inspirational I'd find him.
Neil Lennon - Despite explicitly not having what I wanted from the new manager (Championship experience), I'm coming round to this. The SPL might be a pub league, but he won it well and performed minor miracles in the Champions League by getting them through the group stage and beating Barcelona, all of it on a fraction of what other Champions League clubs were spending.
I think he's the type of character players would respond to. Regardless of what he has or hasn't achieved, he's a big name and would be seen as a coup for us. If from the outset the players (both those at the club and anyone were trying to sign) believe we have a manager who is going places and can get the best out of them, that's half the job done.
Steve Clarke - Is undoubtedly a good coach and did pretty well at West Brom for my money. Would be another who is inexperienced and I would worry about his ability to turn it around if things did start to spiral downwards. On the other hand, he's got a point to prove and has been coaching at the top level for 16 years.
I'd go Lennon, Hughton, Clarke, Mackay. But all >>>>>>> Dougie.
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Mackay was the guy whose chasing of Sordell got Coyle in a lather and dash to buy him.
Just saying.
Just saying.
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