If carlsberg did transfer threads.....This would be it!

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Re: If carlsberg did transfer threads.....This would be it!

Post by Peter Thompson » Mon Nov 30, 2015 10:09 am

You couldn't fcuking make it up.

We didn't spend a penny on transfer fees in the past year, yet we've spent £1M on agents fees - is it any wonder we are in the shit

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Post by BWFC_Insane » Mon Nov 30, 2015 10:38 am

Peter Thompson wrote:You couldn't fcuking make it up.

We didn't spend a penny on transfer fees in the past year, yet we've spent £1M on agents fees - is it any wonder we are in the shit
We signed a lot of players though, and that usually brings with it agents fees. I'm not really sure this is outrageous or shocking beyond the fact that football agents make a lot of money (but we already knew this).

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Post by Peter Thompson » Mon Nov 30, 2015 11:05 am

So we haven't got a pot to piss in & are shopping in the bargain basement and still can't afford anyone - yet we somehow find enough cash down the back of the couch to pay £1M to agents.

£1M when you are absolutely broke is a fair amount to spend on agents for shite loan players & shite free transfers.

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Post by Worthy4England » Mon Nov 30, 2015 11:07 am

Peter Thompson wrote:So we haven't got a pot to piss in & are shopping in the bargain basement and still can't afford anyone - yet we somehow find enough cash down the back of the couch to pay £1M to agents.

£1M when you are absolutely broke is a fair amount to spend on agents for shite loan players & shite free transfers.
I agree, but not sure how we can avoid them? Only talk to players with no agents in this day and age doesn't seem likely...Clearly other Clubs aren't talking to the same agents we are (or not as often) as Clubs declare different amounts...

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Post by BWFC_Insane » Mon Nov 30, 2015 11:13 am

Peter Thompson wrote:So we haven't got a pot to piss in & are shopping in the bargain basement and still can't afford anyone - yet we somehow find enough cash down the back of the couch to pay £1M to agents.

£1M when you are absolutely broke is a fair amount to spend on agents for shite loan players & shite free transfers.
Well would you rather have signed nobody (I mean ignore the fact that the signings have been poor in the main)?

It isn't like we could have spent £1M on players because they themselves would have had agents fees attached.

Agents fees are just a cost of transfers. However we did our deals that money would still be required.

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Post by Peter Thompson » Mon Nov 30, 2015 11:21 am

BWFC_Insane wrote:Well would you rather have signed nobody (I mean ignore the fact that the signings have been poor in the main)?

It isn't like we could have spent £1M on players because they themselves would have had agents fees attached.

Agents fees are just a cost of transfers. However we did our deals that money would still be required.
Yes looking at the players brought in we would have been better served signing nobody, if it's cost us £1M just to sign them.

Its been £1M wasted because none of the players brought in have warranted high agents fee's - if the club knew prior to signing them that they had to pay high agents fee's, then at least try and bring in players with a bit of quality - not waste the money on absolute shite.

Out of interest, who authorises such payments the chairman ?

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Post by BWFC_Insane » Mon Nov 30, 2015 11:24 am

Peter Thompson wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:Well would you rather have signed nobody (I mean ignore the fact that the signings have been poor in the main)?

It isn't like we could have spent £1M on players because they themselves would have had agents fees attached.

Agents fees are just a cost of transfers. However we did our deals that money would still be required.
Yes looking at the players brought in we would have been better served signing nobody, if it's cost us £1M just to sign them.

Its been £1M wasted because none of the players brought in have warranted high agents fee's - if the club knew prior to signing them that they had to pay high agents fee's, then at least try and bring in players with a bit of quality - not waste the money on absolute shite.

Out of interest, who authorises such payments the chairman ?
I rather suspect given the numbers signed we are paying relatively small agents fees.

I agree that players recruited have been terrible but that is the fault of the manager. And how he has chosen to spend his budget.

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Post by Bruce Rioja » Mon Nov 30, 2015 11:50 am

Peter Thompson wrote:So we haven't got a pot to piss in & are shopping in the bargain basement and still can't afford anyone - yet we somehow find enough cash down the back of the couch to pay £1M to agents.
Which is otherwise avoidable how, exactly?
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Post by Harry Genshaw » Mon Nov 30, 2015 12:01 pm

Bruce Rioja wrote:
Peter Thompson wrote:So we haven't got a pot to piss in & are shopping in the bargain basement and still can't afford anyone - yet we somehow find enough cash down the back of the couch to pay £1M to agents.
Which is otherwise avoidable how, exactly?
He's right about one thing though. It's fookin depressing to have paid that kind of money to agents with good players on their books, never mind some of the duffers we've attracted :(
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Post by Bruce Rioja » Mon Nov 30, 2015 12:24 pm

Harry Genshaw wrote:
Bruce Rioja wrote:
Peter Thompson wrote:So we haven't got a pot to piss in & are shopping in the bargain basement and still can't afford anyone - yet we somehow find enough cash down the back of the couch to pay £1M to agents.
Which is otherwise avoidable how, exactly?
He's right about one thing though. It's fookin depressing to have paid that kind of money to agents with good players on their books, never mind some of the duffers we've attracted :(
I appreciate that, but the gist of PT's gripe appears to be that we've managed to rustle up £1m in the first place.
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Post by Peter Thompson » Mon Nov 30, 2015 12:37 pm

Bruce Rioja wrote:
Harry Genshaw wrote:
Bruce Rioja wrote:
Peter Thompson wrote:So we haven't got a pot to piss in & are shopping in the bargain basement and still can't afford anyone - yet we somehow find enough cash down the back of the couch to pay £1M to agents.
Which is otherwise avoidable how, exactly?
He's right about one thing though. It's fookin depressing to have paid that kind of money to agents with good players on their books, never mind some of the duffers we've attracted :(
I appreciate that, but the gist of PT's gripe appears to be that we've managed to rustle up £1m in the first place.
Its not - why would being able to find £1M be a gripe ? my point is that we are absolutely skint, but have still wasted £1M of what little cash we had on agents fee's for shite players - its not my money, but if it was I wouldn't be authorising any agents fee's unless the player or players in question were worth it.

I'd like to know which players we paid agent fee's for

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Re: If carlsberg did transfer threads.....This would be it!

Post by Bruce Rioja » Mon Nov 30, 2015 12:42 pm

Peter Thompson wrote:
Bruce Rioja wrote:
Harry Genshaw wrote:
Bruce Rioja wrote:
Peter Thompson wrote:So we haven't got a pot to piss in & are shopping in the bargain basement and still can't afford anyone - yet we somehow find enough cash down the back of the couch to pay £1M to agents.
Which is otherwise avoidable how, exactly?
He's right about one thing though. It's fookin depressing to have paid that kind of money to agents with good players on their books, never mind some of the duffers we've attracted :(
I appreciate that, but the gist of PT's gripe appears to be that we've managed to rustle up £1m in the first place.
Its not - why would being able to find £1M be a gripe ? my point is that we are absolutely skint, but have still wasted £1M of what little cash we had on agents fee's for shite players - its not my money, but if it was I wouldn't be authorising any agents fee's unless the player or players in question were worth it.

I'd like to know which players we paid agent fee's for
No mention whatsoever about supposed value here though. "So we haven't got a pot to piss in & are shopping in the bargain basement and still can't afford anyone - yet we somehow find enough cash down the back of the couch to pay £1M to agents."
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Post by Worthy4England » Mon Nov 30, 2015 1:12 pm

We've probably signed 12 players, excluding some loanees in the last year. That works out at less then £100k per player. That doesn't include any fees we might have incurred to get players off the books (thinking Mills here and a couple of others).

Getting Trotter out on loan should be meritorious of half that fee.

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Post by Little Green Man » Mon Nov 30, 2015 1:32 pm

Worthy4England wrote:We've probably signed 12 players, excluding some loanees in the last year. That works out at less then £100k per player.
I'd have thought some if not all of the loans would attract agent fees, plus there'll be agent fees for contract extensions, for example Zach Clough.

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Post by Prufrock » Mon Nov 30, 2015 1:43 pm

The only club I know of that won't pay them is Blackpool. It seems to have worked out all right for them.
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Post by thebish » Mon Nov 30, 2015 2:10 pm

is there a reason why clubs still pay agents? isn't it time the game sorted it out?? surely an agent works for the player - to get the player a good deal. the players are generally VERY well paid - so should be able to pay for their own agent - as - let's face it - the agent WORKS FOR THE PLAYER! maybe I'm missing something?

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Post by jonnycooper » Mon Nov 30, 2015 2:13 pm

thebish wrote:is there a reason why clubs still pay agents? isn't it time the game sorted it out?? surely an agent works for the player - to get the player a good deal. the players are generally VERY well paid - so should be able to pay for their own agent - as - let's face it - the agent WORKS FOR THE PLAYER! maybe I'm missing something?

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Post by boltonboris » Mon Nov 30, 2015 4:11 pm

thebish wrote:is there a reason why clubs still pay agents? isn't it time the game sorted it out?? surely an agent works for the player - to get the player a good deal. the players are generally VERY well paid - so should be able to pay for their own agent - as - let's face it - the agent WORKS FOR THE PLAYER! maybe I'm missing something?
I think they used to do that before the height of TV money and player power
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Post by LeverEnd » Mon Nov 30, 2015 4:32 pm

Prufrock wrote:The only club I know of that won't pay them is Blackpool. It seems to have worked out all right for them.
Well thank goodness we've decided to follow their example more closely!
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Post by Hoboh » Mon Nov 30, 2015 4:35 pm

thebish wrote:is there a reason why clubs still pay agents? isn't it time the game sorted it out?? surely an agent works for the player - to get the player a good deal. the players are generally VERY well paid - so should be able to pay for their own agent - as - let's face it - the agent WORKS FOR THE PLAYER! maybe I'm missing something?
thebish and hoboh in agreement shocker!
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