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Re: The breaking News thread...

Post by BWFC_Insane » Wed Jan 20, 2016 4:28 pm

As Nixon says, we brought in these experts to sell things including the whole club and they can't close any deals.

I have no faith in these 'experts'. 2 months on since Birch arrived and seemingly nothing has improved at all.

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Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Wed Jan 20, 2016 4:31 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:As Nixon says, we brought in these experts to sell things including the whole club and they can't close any deals.

I have no faith in these 'experts'. 2 months on since Birch arrived and seemingly nothing has improved at all.
As is proven by the fact we went into administration all those 48 hourses ago...

I imagine they could close a deal if they accept a shit deal.

This is a bit like transfer windows under Allardyce.

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Re: The breaking News thread...

Post by BWFC_Insane » Wed Jan 20, 2016 4:35 pm

Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:As Nixon says, we brought in these experts to sell things including the whole club and they can't close any deals.

I have no faith in these 'experts'. 2 months on since Birch arrived and seemingly nothing has improved at all.
As is proven by the fact we went into administration all those 48 hourses ago...

I imagine they could close a deal if they accept a shit deal.

This is a bit like transfer windows under Allardyce.
It's ok though it's only regular staff not being paid whilst Eddie counts his money and pays his experts.

To be unable to pay staff at this stage is a shambles.

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Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Wed Jan 20, 2016 4:49 pm

Oh don't get me wrong, it's a terrible shame for those who aren't getting paid. And I would like the deal to be concluded quickly. As I'm sure would Birch, Davies and all the staff.

Funny how little opprobrium there is for the consortia who still haven't got their shit together.

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Post by StaffsTrotter » Wed Jan 20, 2016 4:55 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:
Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:As Nixon says, we brought in these experts to sell things including the whole club and they can't close any deals.

I have no faith in these 'experts'. 2 months on since Birch arrived and seemingly nothing has improved at all.
As is proven by the fact we went into administration all those 48 hourses ago...

I imagine they could close a deal if they accept a shit deal.

This is a bit like transfer windows under Allardyce.
It's ok though it's only regular staff not being paid whilst Eddie counts his money and pays his experts.

To be unable to pay staff at this stage is a shambles.
As debated ad nauseum, the position on not closing the various asset sales is perfectly understandable - all to do with our experts getting market valuations and setting up options and contingencies. I'm assuming that they are trying to keep everything together as a package. We and Nixon have no idea whether a) when the overall sale is likely to be resolved; b) what position the various interested parties have taken on those different assets.

Admit I dont get the staff pay bit, other than EDs presumably trying to draw a line with bidders, which is small comfort for the staff.

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Re: The breaking News thread...

Post by StaffsTrotter » Wed Jan 20, 2016 5:05 pm

Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:Oh don't get me wrong, it's a terrible shame for those who aren't getting paid. And I would like the deal to be concluded quickly. As I'm sure would Birch, Davies and all the staff.

Funny how little opprobrium there is for the consortia who still haven't got their shit together.
quite - albeit quite a few on here have questioned the sanity of anyone taking us on, so might justify their reticence.

FWIW I still like to think that we are a reasonably attractive position in the comparative madness of football investment, albeit the fire sale approach hasnt helped and the time its taking suggesting I'm deluded

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Re: The breaking News thread...

Post by thebish » Wed Jan 20, 2016 5:19 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:As Nixon says, we brought in these experts to sell things including the whole club and they can't close any deals.

I have no faith in these 'experts'. 2 months on since Birch arrived and seemingly nothing has improved at all.
Get a grip! Any old tosser can close a deal - it takes more nerve to hold out for the right/best deal. Judge them when the job is done - not before...

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Re: The breaking News thread...

Post by BWFC_Insane » Wed Jan 20, 2016 5:28 pm

thebish wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:As Nixon says, we brought in these experts to sell things including the whole club and they can't close any deals.

I have no faith in these 'experts'. 2 months on since Birch arrived and seemingly nothing has improved at all.
Get a grip! Any old tosser can close a deal - it takes more nerve to hold out for the right/best deal. Judge them when the job is done - not before...
I, afraid I don't believe Eddie or his advisors he is paying are necessarily acting in the best interests of the club.

If Eddie truly cared he could at the very least pay the non playing staff until things were sorted.

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Re: The breaking News thread...

Post by thebish » Wed Jan 20, 2016 5:36 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:
thebish wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:As Nixon says, we brought in these experts to sell things including the whole club and they can't close any deals.

I have no faith in these 'experts'. 2 months on since Birch arrived and seemingly nothing has improved at all.
Get a grip! Any old tosser can close a deal - it takes more nerve to hold out for the right/best deal. Judge them when the job is done - not before...
I, afraid I don't believe Eddie or his advisors he is paying are necessarily acting in the best interests of the club.

If Eddie truly cared he could at the very least pay the non playing staff until things were sorted.
If YOU really cared, YOU could pay them.

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Re: The breaking News thread...

Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Wed Jan 20, 2016 6:01 pm

thebish wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:
thebish wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:As Nixon says, we brought in these experts to sell things including the whole club and they can't close any deals.

I have no faith in these 'experts'. 2 months on since Birch arrived and seemingly nothing has improved at all.
Get a grip! Any old tosser can close a deal - it takes more nerve to hold out for the right/best deal. Judge them when the job is done - not before...
I, afraid I don't believe Eddie or his advisors he is paying are necessarily acting in the best interests of the club.

If Eddie truly cared he could at the very least pay the non playing staff until things were sorted.
If YOU really cared, YOU could pay them.
This.
He ain't obligated.
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Re: The breaking News thread...

Post by BWFC_Insane » Wed Jan 20, 2016 6:05 pm

Lost Leopard Spot wrote:
thebish wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:
thebish wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:As Nixon says, we brought in these experts to sell things including the whole club and they can't close any deals.

I have no faith in these 'experts'. 2 months on since Birch arrived and seemingly nothing has improved at all.
Get a grip! Any old tosser can close a deal - it takes more nerve to hold out for the right/best deal. Judge them when the job is done - not before...
I, afraid I don't believe Eddie or his advisors he is paying are necessarily acting in the best interests of the club.

If Eddie truly cared he could at the very least pay the non playing staff until things were sorted.
If YOU really cared, YOU could pay them.
This.
He ain't obligated.
My point is missed. Why do people assume Eddie has the best interests of the club in all of this?

He is paying Birch and Robinson et al, to act on his behalf. Not on the fans behalf of the clubs.

Of course he isn't obligated to pay the staff wages for the business he owns.

But why is mistrusting his actions in this process unfair? I don't see any reason to trust him. Not one. And I have a few reasons that I don't. They will remain private though.

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Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Wed Jan 20, 2016 6:15 pm

^ That's fine. I don't mind you not trusting him. I don't trust anyfecker (but my wife). So fine, neither of us trust him.
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Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Wed Jan 20, 2016 6:18 pm

My point in all of this, is that it doesn't matter a shiny shit about what any of us bystanders feel about it. What will happen will happen. Some think it'll be reet, others less convinced. But how it occurred and why, they are concerns that are neither here nor there.
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Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Wed Jan 20, 2016 6:28 pm

Let's face down the hysteria. If the car park sale happens Friday, wages will be paid Monday. If the car park sale doesn't happen then HMRC will be correct, the club is insolvent and they won't have any jobs. This is the sort of uncertainty that happens in a crisis. We are in a crisis. But we're not feeding the workers into a vast mincer and selling them off as pies, they just need to wait some days before being paid...
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Re: The breaking News thread...

Post by BWFC_Insane » Wed Jan 20, 2016 6:46 pm

Things I have heard are now being hinted at by Iles. He was asked if a deal to buy the club close, his response....
@MarcIles: @taff86 close, yes. But whether ED wants to do business, God only knows.

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Post by irie Cee Bee » Wed Jan 20, 2016 7:12 pm

Lost Leopard Spot wrote:Let's face down the hysteria. If the car park sale happens Friday, wages will be paid Monday. If the car park sale doesn't happen then HMRC will be correct, the club is insolvent and they won't have any jobs. This is the sort of uncertainty that happens in a crisis. We are in a crisis. But we're not feeding the workers into a vast mincer and selling them off as pies, they just need to wait some days before being paid...
Spoken like a true accountant.

I am happy that my support for BWFC is not based on numbers but love else I would have ditched the club a long time ago for one in the Premiere league. I hope the current members of the board and owners will show some love to the people they depend on to keep the club going, and who play no role in the stupid decisions that are made at that level that have brought about this mess.

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Re: The breaking News thread...

Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Wed Jan 20, 2016 7:23 pm

irie Cee Bee wrote:
Lost Leopard Spot wrote:Let's face down the hysteria. If the car park sale happens Friday, wages will be paid Monday. If the car park sale doesn't happen then HMRC will be correct, the club is insolvent and they won't have any jobs. This is the sort of uncertainty that happens in a crisis. We are in a crisis. But we're not feeding the workers into a vast mincer and selling them off as pies, they just need to wait some days before being paid...
Spoken like a true accountant.

I am happy that my support for BWFC is not based on numbers but love else I would have ditched the club a long time ago for one in the Premiere league. I hope the current members of the board and owners will show some love to the people they depend on to keep the club going, and who play no role in the stupid decisions that are made at that level that have brought about this mess.
Whoa tiger, I didn't say it was right. I merely pointed out that what has been reported is a hitch in payments. We don't have to roll in the love patch and profess anything. I know it's a pain to be paid late. It's a fxcking damn well bigger pain to lose a job. But none of those impacts on the fandom element of why we support the club we do. And no, I'm not an accountant, cheeky fxcker.
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Post by Jugs » Wed Jan 20, 2016 7:56 pm

Let me ask this: If the owner is not obligated to pay his staff, who is?

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Post by bobo the clown » Wed Jan 20, 2016 7:57 pm

Unless he is in very dire financial straits, if there was a genuine and imminent failure to pay ED will stump it up.

Not through soft-hearted, soft-headed emotion but because whatever value he has still in the enterprise will diminish by far more than that tax bill.

As I have said repeatedly.

In other words ... "it'll be reet".
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Post by BWFC_Insane » Wed Jan 20, 2016 8:06 pm

bobo the clown wrote:Unless he is in very dire financial straits, if there was a genuine and imminent failure to pay ED will stump it up.

Not through soft-hearted, soft-headed emotion but because whatever value he has still in the enterprise will diminish by far more than that tax bill.

As I have said repeatedly.

In other words ... "it'll be reet".
IF he is selling the club for a pound, what exactly is he set to lose?

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